Here's the final episode of Sfactor
I remember being astonished at the time.. at how KK already had a print out of Sherine's blog with her. I mean.. us girls never know what the episode is about until the point of filming itself.
What do you think about this whole KK Sherine clash?
I remember being astonished at the time.. at how KK already had a print out of Sherine's blog with her. I mean.. us girls never know what the episode is about until the point of filming itself.
What do you think about this whole KK Sherine clash?
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I would say i agree that KK bashed Sherine and i laughed my heads off when she say she printed it and learned to print screen because of that.
The reason i supported KK was because she said to Sherine about the blog and she denied it and said she cant remember till KK took the paper out.
Then she said she wrote that is because she wanted to entertained the readers.
I gotta agree with u though bout the power switch. I would say that i wanted Sonia to win lol.. I feel for her in the last episode when she was talking about her mom (was rooting kk and you all this while)
Too bad her answer about the FHM cover wasnt good. I mean like you're competing for the $10,000 and FHM cover of course you take the cover and let the money come later right?
Perhaps she didn't answer so well there and KK of course since she is smarter in answer question dominated that part.. oh well...
Congrats KK!
Cheers~~
AL
and just my opinion, Holly, you shouldn't frown so much when you talk, because your smile is great :)
D.
I guess kk do have some insider info with regards to what the last episode was about ( It was unlikely that she whould prepare a print out of Sherine's blog if she had no idea what the last episode was about ). The media portrayed Sherine really badly. Which indeed i think it is quite unfair to a certain extent. My gut feeling tells me that kk was the determined winner even before the last episode was flimed.
My favourites are still holly and sonia! :))
but then again, sometimes we do say things withouting thinking esp in awk situations like that.
Looking at how kay kay attacks the girls and act victim, i dun think sherine is at bigge fault. Afterall, she apologise. Kay kay should wake up her sense. Attacking you just becos u didn't laugh at her stupid kris joke??
She is such a queen bit*h
I didn't get to read Sherine's blog post in question, but it seemed she didn't name names? If that's the case it's hilarious how KK immediately knew it was her. I mean if I don't identify with "looking like a man" I wouldn't think the blog was about me. So KK is secretly afraid she looks like a man ah?
I didn't get to read Sherine's blog post in question, but it seemed she didn't name names? If that's the case it's hilarious how KK immediately knew it was her. I mean if I don't identify with "looking like a man" I wouldn't think the blog was about me. So KK is secretly afraid she looks like a man ah?
I don't agree with u about KK is the one who deserves the crown...
I personally thinks she is just lucky/ fixed to survive during the episode 7 test...
Seems like the productions make it in the way that she can get into the finals...
some how I find Sonia distracted in the Final episode.. Like she knows she is told that she will be the runner up before up...
KK's been jeering most of the girls throughout the show - esp so, giving her opinions on 'who's pretentious' and 'who's physical assets are faux'. Total B*tch! And, I dun just wanna hear what she thinks but how the rest thinks. And, this is quite obvious in the last vote, that 6 out of 10 girls voted for Sonia instead.
I understand it's a competition, but does she have to stoop so low, commenting on the girls base on their personality and looks? What is this competition all about? Is it a 'America's Next Top Model' sorta competition? In which, I think most girls in the show would not be able to make the cut - it's the height thingy, at least be 5'9 minimum. Or should they be looking at who's a good sport in completing the task, and behaves with proper decorum or plainly savoir faire. Talk about looking for Singapore's Smart, Sexy and Sophisticated girl....Gosh...what a whole lot of crap.
saw kk's twitter thread; there are tweets talking about how Sherine sucks, and of course, the fake nose. heh but of course, sherine's at fault too for lying so much, and her going to dr georgia lee for her nose/skin treatments and said surgery doesn't help her claim that she didn't do plastic surgery on her nose!
i think sonia deserved it more. at least she seems earnest and genuine. having you gals vote again is quite dumb...since the judges would probably have discussed their views and came to a consensus to make up 75% of the votes.
She was selfless, cos she knows that no matter how much fame could come her way by opting for the spread on FHM, it might not meet her ultimate goal in winning the competition to bring her mom for the trip. FHM spread, having girls to flaunt their boobs/butts/bon bons to titillate men, how glamourous is that? And, I think the girl, Sonia, is smart. I guess, though Sonia might not be able to articulate herself to express her determination, she has a heart of Gold.
totally agree!
She was selfless, cos she knows that no matter how much fame could come her way by opting for the spread on FHM, it might not meet her ultimate goal in winning the competition to bring her mom for the trip. FHM spread, having girls to flaunt their boobs/butts/bon bons to titillate men, how glamourous is that? And, I think the girl, Sonia, is smart. I guess, though Sonia might not be able to articulate herself to express her determination, she has a heart of Gold.
haha the KK Sherine clash is just for entertaining the audience. why take it so seriously?
bravo for not taking sides and joining in their bitching session....made it so worthwhile for me to be such a huge fan of ur blog!! :) Continue to be you, Holly
Think some of us din expect the ending as such.. the part when KK felt u werent making a stand? well who wants to make a stand for such b*tchy statement rite? If it's political or religious views, yes we make our stands firmly but not to ridiculing someone for their spelling or pronounciation.. anyway cheers to U babe for standing firm during the show :)
I have readers commenting i look like 'bapok' or trans (and it doesnt help with my husky voice) but i choose to take all with a laugh and not flaming or cursing back (wat's the point?) since they might not know me well as a person.. with high EQ, KK perhaps can check it out with SHerine offline regarding the blog entry and things need not be that ugly.. but perhaps for viewership or that moment of truth(i dunno maybe), then decided to lash it out in public but still that's not nice thing to do... life goes on..
For Sonia, i like her frank honesty and that she wanted (as best as she cld) to make up for her mum as probably she felt for it at that point when the qtn was posed and also surprised that Kris voted for her too (thumbs up for Kris who's able to put aside the differences and judge based on the competition)
I rooted for you babe and later Sonia ( i like that when she say $10,000 for friendship? which i would also do the same).. anyway maybe FHM or Maxim can groom Sonia as their long-term model? COz after all like what u see in Star Search these years, is usually the first runner-ups that go far :P
i used to like kay kay but now i totally dislike her because of what she said about you! i think it was really mean, to attack you just because you were being nice? i wished sonia won instead :(
By the way Holly, I am curious myself too. If all the girls do not know what is the episode about, then why did KK print out a copy of the blog??? She can't be carrying that piece of paper around without knowing that she could confront Sherine about it... mmm... Hence, doesn't this say something about the winner??
The whole immunity shit that never happened in episode 7 for Sherine and the reason she had a copy of Sherine's blog then. Also, the whole 'being herself' crap leading to the plain reason why she won. Maybe it's just to brand herself as a 'COOL' chick, who fucks everyone. Tot it was uncouth of her to use the 'F' word like...all the time. How's that for Sophistication. Isn't that what the show is looking for as well (quote mentioned by Max Loong as an introduction to the show).
I also disliked the way she demanded an apology from sherrine. I think she believes that anyone who has a personality different from hers is two-faced or putting up an act. Ie. anyone who isn't openly bitchy about things SHE finds annoying/irritating/upsetting too either doesnt have a personality or is two-faced.
What's best about all of this is how the producers/judges bought the whole thing -.-
Your posts are getting shorter and your blog has somewhat turned into a forum!
Why don't you share your opinions instead?
Just a suggestion :)
-G
So no, the show is not rigged at all.
Hur hur..
"Seems like the productions make it in the way that she can get into the finals..."
ya i totally agree this! you know why? because kaykay has her own tv show from clicknetwork.net and obviously she owns the most popularity than the other contestent! ppl don't even know sonia but if ppl keep online to read xiaxue,s blog or watch youtube or chick vs dick sure know who kaykay is!
so even tho someone telling me that that is an arrangement i don't feel curious and weird at all..
It's very interesting to read your perceptions of the programme. Gives me more to think about as well!
I've read everything. my next post will be about Sfactor and my thoughts on it :)
Can't do tht right now, hopefully tomorrow (if I can get a connection)
and i think your blog is pretty interesting.
about the KK Sherine Clash,
i personally think KK deserved the win. she was the smartest one amongst the rest of the remaining contestants. plus, i think Sherine is totally at fault here. she bitched about KK in her blog, and tried to deny it. until KK took out the 'evidence', then she admitted it and said that its because she wanted to make her blog more interesting for her readers, which is not a reasonable or sensible answer, right?
Despite her claims of being the most well-rounded girl, she's hardly the sharpest tool in the shed. She's more articulate than most of the girls on the show, but that's not saying much; her "strategies" going into different challenges are quite simplistic. Yawn.
Oh and she ought to be at least a bit better at taking the nastiness that she's so often dishing out when she's being upfront and totally herself.
I'll be glad to answer them there so ask me anything! Sorry I don't have an account here...
Thanks!
-Gillian, Director of 'S Factor'
Suddenly she plays the 'mom' card and she makes a about-turn? Sonia AND KK are both bitchy. But I don't think anyone can survive in the industry without being bitchy. Holly, by soliciting for comments is, in a way, being bitchy too. This opens up the avenue for like-minded KK bitching.
To be fair, no one likes being bitched about. And it doesn't take KK, or a model, to retaliate.
I think Kris came out looking the best actually... integrity-wise at least.
But now, trying to take an impartial stand, I feel that:
1. Sherine could have avoided trouble by not explicitly sharing her feelings during the filming period on a public blog.
2. Kaykay had the right to be angry for the things said about her - even though no names were mentioned, Sherine didn't make an effort to save her ass or say that the person described wasn't Kaykay.. or something to that effect (Maybe she did but it wasn't shown.) And the excuse that she wanted to attract more readers was not a good one. Not remembering what she wrote and having her words read out to her made things worse.
I feel sorry for Sherine but karma is a bitch. Kaykay was just standing up for herself I guess. But her friend Michelle - UGH. She talks too much and for the good of no one. It just seems that she wanted a bit more camera time.
With that, I still think Kaykay picking on you for not taking a stand was uncalled for. You were very smart not to participate in making fun of Kris. And I pity that girl too. Getting bullied just cos they "didn't like how she look".
Whatever it is, the bitchiness and catfights made good TV. Don't we kaypoh Singaporeans just love the drama? It's too bad some people have to suffer for it in reality =c
It appears you were a little angry at KK's remark. But my thoughts were that as it was at the initial stage of the competition, impressions take time to form. I didn't really notice you because you didn't stand out (sorry). I guess people tend to get the impression if you are over quiet, you can end up being very scheming. Maybe that was KK's point. Of course, you can choose to disagree. Maybe KK expected you to stand up for Kris or something, rather than just keeping quiet and going along with them. shrugs.
But I find you respectable in your own way cos you have character and it showed at the end.
As I watched the video again, I think that Sherine, although she is just totally lost (ie Fake), shes not pretentious because she admitted to the blog post when she could just flat out deny it - she didnt put any names, it may not be kaykay.
She could also have said that what she wrote in her blog is not a point of debate. KK purposely brought it up to make her look bad, as she knew Sherine would flat out deny it, but would have to eat her words later on.
Shows that Sherine is not very smart (ie the proverbial fool), first, to post her thoughts on a public blog when things could be taken against her (what was she thinking?), and then not being scheming enough to plot a better counter to KK's accusations.
I feel that although KK is smart, her lack of integrity and intent on manipulating the less-intellectually-inclined, as well as using hurtful words to gather others by her side shows it all.
She said she didn't like you because you were quiet, and you probably kept quiet because you didnt want others to turn against you, was a mark against you, but since she knew that, it shows she feels the same as well, but has gone a step further to plan speeches to dominate the group and win points.
I 'spose this show is more about cunning and manipulation than anything. It brings viewers.
Lynn
Sherine was stupid to not deny that the blog post was about KK. If no names are mentioned then it could be about anyone, who's going to prove it? Go through lie detector test? Who would put in so much effort? So I don't know why she didn't deny. She could have easily made KK look very stupid and ridiculous by saying "I didn't mention names, why would you think it's you?" but she didn't. Too bad.
I did think KK came across as oversensitive and when she read the post out and said "obviously you were talking about me!" I was thinking "Huh? Obvious meh that you look like a tranny and are short and all?" Isn't Michelle shorter anyway? I don't think KK looks like a man but those fake eyelashes are just too much. Especially on a big HD tv. And when not applied properly. Can make her look a bit crazy.
And it is really weird for production executives to come out and defend the production. I, too, never saw American's next Top model, Survivor, or even Apprentice, Donald Trump would come out and defend his decisions when they are a million criticisms out there. Made the whole thing even more shady.
Holly, U r always my favourite. heh I also give it 2 Kris coz she was able 2 see beyond her treatment by Sonia 2 toss her vote 2 her.
Deja vu, Michelle scolded Kris when she was helping Sonia in the debate. Then ending finale she scolded Sherine coz she was helping KayKay. The quote of E day by Sherine, “Then that’s ur problem.” Stylo, I like heh.
Anonymous said...
Hi Holly,
Your posts are getting shorter and your blog has somewhat turned into a forum!
Why don't you share your opinions instead?
Just a suggestion :)
-G
6:48 PM, May 27, 2009
Anonymous said...
Thanks for all your interest in the show. If you have questions for the producers, could you post them at http://www.clicknetwork.tv/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=20
I'll be glad to answer them there so ask me anything! Sorry I don't have an account here...
Thanks!
-Gillian, Director of 'S Factor'
1:01 AM, May 28, 2009
Cheers
Cyn
Gillian, if you are reading this, I am really curious to know. How did KK know that she would have the opportunity to confront Sherine about the blog in the first place? Like I mentioned earlier, she can't be carrying that piece of paper from Sherine's blog where ever she goes unless she knows that she will have the chance to confront Sherine... Would the producers admit that they know KK before the show? If so, that means there is a conflict on interest and the decision is not fair at all. Firstly, the vote seems to be based by 3 judges whom were probably not aware of the earlier episodes. Secondly, doesn't it say something if there are 6 votes towards Sonia??? Thirdly, I believe the FHM judge must have voted KK because KK mentioned that she/he would have chosen FHM cover to $10k where else Sonia didn't. I don't think it was wrong for Sonia to tell the truth or even chosen $10k to the FHM cover. KK probably is rich enough or not family attached enough to choose $10k. I don't think the judges asked the questions to trick the finalist and be bias if one answers otherwise. I think its more of knowing how the person would answer and respecting the answer itself. What I can probably summarize is that the winner of S Factor is meant to be bitchy, back stabbing, fake, liar and of course another so called beauty contest. If you are what the winner is than you can win too.... Again, this is my opinion.
Strange her supposed good friend, xuesha in the end voted for kaykay. They either had a falling out or they arent really good friends.
Wouldnt be surprised if Michelle told Xuesha something like that to help Kaykay get a vote too! I mean.. thats why everyone says Xuesha's very naive isn't it?
Really don't know why Michella has to suck up to Kaykay like that. Like a bootlicker or something.. And her face.. omg don't even get me started on how her face looks!
（http://twitter.com/valska）
When strangers claim that S Factor was rigged, it's fine. When friends who do the same to stir controversy, it's not. Shame on you, Saiful.
12 minutes ago from TweetDeck
How can?! You must 大义灭亲！
But I'm retracting my comment because no opinion is worth hurting a friend's feelings, knowingly or otherwise.
But ur fren did a bad move. This would just further provoke public. Producer & Director should just remain silent and not defend themselves too hard or tag on Kay Kay's twitter:
@yankaykay All the more they felt that the last ep was rigged. Go to the clicknetwork forums.
29 minutes ago from TweetDeck in reply to yankaykay
Dont want to seem as conspiracy also hard.
http://www.clicknetwork.tv/forum/Default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=20&f=11
3) The recent American Idol voting scandal is just one of many examples why it's so hard to be completely fair in reality competitions like these.
Everyone knew all the girls would be coming back in EP8 for a reunion, and I'm sure most of them have seen enough reality TV reunions before to know what they're about. KK definitely knew she had the opportunity to confront Sherine then. It's not secret information that they'd be able to "speak up" during the reunion, or in any episode for that matter.
......KK definitely knew. Best. Know the saying? 越描越黑
look at what you guys can dig up in just a couple of days! I can't check the internet all the time here when I'm out of the hotel. I feel like I'm out of the loop!!!
But I'm very impressed.
Have been reading through all your interesting comments and opinions.
WIll be posting my own later(shld be late night SG time). Really missing SG.... and my 100% of the time internet connection.
And we are the ones who watch and support the show! What a mockery!
I mean seriously, we are the reason why they can make a living and yet they are calling us ridiculous, retards! If no one watches their programs on tv or online, they wouldn't have viewership stats to sell their content to their clients!
Whatever they are publicly tweeting is so disrespectful to all of you who watch the show and think it's rigged!
This will be definitely be my last time watching any program produced by munkysuperstar! Period.
-Pissed
By the way Holly, the producer claimed that you all were aware that its a reunion. Are you aware?
With all said, of course the producers have to make the best of their own production and can't be admitting they made mistakes or should have been...blah blah blah.... Hence, credit still goes to them for entertaining us so far. If they are reading this, take it as a feedback rather than in a negative way. Its through criticism and feedback that one can be better.
One thing I think we all need clarification is about the immunity. How can they boldly deny Sherine's immunity when she so deserved it? Never in any show that I see immunity being retracted or contestants being denied? Come on. what a stupid confession by Max Loong. Did Survivor ever confessed at the end that the immunity doesnt count after the contestants fought so fiercely during the challenge? I know it's an insult to Survivor. haha. my two cents. gtg.
http://www.clicknetwork.tv/watch.aspx?c=2&p=18&v=212
Its like what we saw in the last episode or finals of s factor..
Is there a message there??
Sonia was being honest and KK, was,...errr.... check it out and share your comments.
You can really laugh your head off.
FHM such a big publication no money to implement a fair voting system??????
are you kidding me?
that poor thing needed 2 days to learn PRINT SCREEN remember?? lol
KAYKAY WROTE ON THE FORUM!!
OMG NOW SHE IS ACTING ALL GRACIOUS ala miss universe or something!! Get real, we all saw how bloody bitchy you were lah!
I think after reading all the hate mails, she's all "HOLY" now! To world peace, NOT!
PS: she didn't commented on how she attacked Holly btw. pretty much just acting like an angel now. i'm disgusted. one moment bitch one moment saint! yikes!
PLASTIC! IN & OUT!!
http://www.clicknetwork.tv/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=20&p=5
I hadn't read it till sometime around ep 4(the blind date challenge) when some of the cast and the producers alerted me to the contents of her blog.
Wow, It has to be the cast and producers again. Anything new that is more impartial?
But Well done la, now they just said more shady things to defend themselves. Ideal women? Dont throw our face la pls. Cast and producer label her as ideal but not general public.
And seriously I never see American Idol's Director/Producer/Cast need to direct pple to their forums to look at their shady words. Please. I think that cast/producer need to be sent overseas, go for internship, take comments positively and really learn humbly from other countries' survivor shows.
don't you all find it weird that we were invited to the forum to "discuss" about the show by the producers today and the next thing, while answering the questions they are putting up links promoting their new online show on the same day itself!
is it too much of a coincidence??
or could it be a stunt for us to click and watch the new show?
afterall, the more clicks they get the more viewership they have..
just a thot...
Is she schizo or what??
http://twitter.com/yankaykay
Must invite FHM director to read and check out their winner....
I don't think Kaykay was wrong in answering the questions on choosing FHM cover/$10k and if she would report to the producers if sonia was a man.
1)10k is seriously not alot of money. Its less than the annual salary of an average working adult.
Getting on FHM is like once in a lifetime opportunity. Even if you have the money, FHM may not want you on their cover. And kaykay was right. Getting on the cover would generate more publicity and recognication for her, which in turn would help her in the long run in terms of income/jobs. Thats more meaningful, plus you are speaking to a senior director of FHM. Do you think you should choose the money over the opportunity ?
2)I don't see by covering up for sonia if she was a man would do yourself any good. Its only fair to the other girls, yourself and the viewers at home. Sonia MAY be overcoming the various challenges because she's a man, she possesses the physical strength of a man or blah..and not entirely as a woman.
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SAIFU! sigh, u never 大义灭亲!
If you have the $, dont think any rich pple would be in the right mind to go film on FHM cover la.
Back to the saying: There are many things money can't buy.
I am not saying that it was wrong for KK to answer those questions, but I am just doubting on what the producers are looking for. What are they really looking for? Sexy, sophisticated, smart and just recently added, ideal woman to a man (by the producers)... so, maybe KK is sexy. As for smart... I don't think so. If she is claimed to be smart, she would know how to handle matter calmly. Ideal woman...errr... I leave it to the guys to answer.
To be a winner, in my opinion, has to be beautiful from the inside out. I would think that personality plays a part since there was a contest on personality in the show. So, does KK fits into all the criteria? In my opinion no, but I guess thats not the way it is to the 3 judges who obviously voted for her.
Handling matters is more like being sensible. Smart is open to interpretation, so lets stop here and not go further if kaykay's smart or not.
Ideal woman is just a tagline afterall. If you crown another lady as the ideal woman, how sure can you be thats her in reality ? She might be putting up an act on national tv becos she knows everyone is watching her.
Personality challenge you meant ? The blind date ?
Of course, if i'm a guy, I will never want great and influential women like Eunice Olsen to be put on FHM cover wearing small pieces of cloth. NO NO.
So most probably they shouldnt even call it S Factor. they genre of the show doesnt fit. Like the Singtel Grid Girls, they can call it FHM Top Model or sth lke that. too late for all these now isnt it? :P
swallow your own words. LOL.
Lol. If you think I'm siding with kaykay and I need a kiss from her, then let it be. I don't mind ahaha.
I already said kaykay's not ideal what.
He's just a fren of the production crew.
Just wondering what is this S Factor supposed to stand for. Superbitchiness? Stupidity? Victory by verbal Strangulation? I mean, sorry, the winner is neither inspiring nor charismatic (neither were most of the girls who got through the last rounds). The last episode was so ridiculous it was a laugh. Several of the contestants should be embarassed to have even appeared there making complete spectacle of themselves. Why don't you guys make better tv? The Apprentice, America's Next Top Model, etc, they're survivor type shows too with some backstabbing/bitchiness going on, but at least, I don't end up feeling idiotic after watching it. Good tv does not equal stupid shows. Amen.
Lee
First, she said Holly did not take a stand, and therefore kept quiet about Kris.
Then, she told Sherine to think about how she feels when she read the blog entry?
These girls are seriously fucked up.
S-factor = Stupid Factor.
I think you are indeed the best girl out of the 12 contestants!!
I used to like kaykay but not anymore, her attitude simply su*ks big time=X
I hate her face and her horrible make-up.
Holly ! you are the best !
OMG , when i saw the S-factor thats kk won . I straight away switch off my computer and Vomit all over my toiletbowl. What the heck , this is not even fair. kk this kind of slut also can be winner?
As for KK...she just came across as an obnoxious and bitchy twat. Not attractive at all. If I'd seen her before watching this show I would have thought "pretty girl". But if I see her now I'll think "beeeatch". LOL. Oh well, so much for that.
Just curious about one thing though...doesn't a show like this do damage to the sponsor??? I mean if the "ideal FHM" girl is a nasty bitchy-school-yard-bully then doesn't that make FHM look bad??? I would think so. But hey, that's just my opinion.