tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post7526324494195547149..comments2024-03-25T22:09:32.257+08:00Comments on A Thing (or Two) About Holly Jean: BlogTv - Jonathan Wong and his Child Porn collectionHolly Jeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05204601039672791434noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-546673018473747062012-06-04T10:14:26.359+08:002012-06-04T10:14:26.359+08:00That was some interesting stuff here on www.hollyj...That was some interesting stuff here on www.hollyjean.sg Thanks for posting it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-32748074830661510582011-05-28T19:25:00.868+08:002011-05-28T19:25:00.868+08:00I have wanted to post something like this on my we...I have wanted to post something like this on my website and this gave me an idea. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-5333804468863418102010-12-21T17:05:49.547+08:002010-12-21T17:05:49.547+08:00the traditional term for whom is when "who&qu...the traditional term for whom is when "who" is used as the subject of a verb (in this case want). It could be argued that the original derivation was to use who as an introduction to a question, and to use whom when in a statement. But that would make to much sense to be correct...<br />So why pick at grammar? obviously to be a humorous diversion from what degenerated into a cut down war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-34688240963627496732010-12-21T03:41:11.169+08:002010-12-21T03:41:11.169+08:00Yes it's teachers WHO want to teach. Having sa...Yes it's teachers WHO want to teach. Having said that, in this sentence, WHO and THAT are interchangeable and are both acceptable.<br /><br />Isn't this post on the geek faced pervert?? Why pick on one another's grammar? -.-Prof Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-67348044163884212922010-12-20T20:20:58.603+08:002010-12-20T20:20:58.603+08:00Erm, I'm pretty sure it's teachers WHO wan...Erm, I'm pretty sure it's teachers WHO want to teach. Rule of thumb: If you can substitute it with "he" or "she" it's WHO, if it's "him" or "her," it's WHOM. E.g She wants to teach English...Teachers WHO want to teach English. SOmething like that lah.girl with nothing to donoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-13174540003917687802010-12-20T18:35:35.183+08:002010-12-20T18:35:35.183+08:00Anon 10:21. To be pedantic, it should be "......Anon 10:21. To be pedantic, it should be "... teachers WHOM want to teach English..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-76427560210310771192010-12-16T22:21:24.837+08:002010-12-16T22:21:24.837+08:00Anon 4:30. It should be "..teachers WHO want ...Anon 4:30. It should be "..teachers WHO want to teach English", not "..teachers that wants to teach English..". <br /><br />Hmm..you should really find that poodle hedgehog hybrid and beg it to give you English tuition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-85869657542184189782010-12-15T16:30:32.564+08:002010-12-15T16:30:32.564+08:00To Amused posts. It should be "Agreed" n...To Amused posts. It should be "Agreed" not "Agree". Ghessz you must be one of those closet pedophile teachers that wants to teach English but speaks English like a cross between a poodle and a hedgehog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-24488806537122730232010-12-14T01:46:57.533+08:002010-12-14T01:46:57.533+08:00Agree. Anon 11:45 sounded like he somehow managed ...Agree. Anon 11:45 sounded like he somehow managed to slip the system and did not receive education because his parents thought all teachers are losers and/or pedophiles. poor chap. never too late to get an education tho anon 11:45! :)amusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-50658717133236009792010-12-13T18:58:56.328+08:002010-12-13T18:58:56.328+08:00Anon 11:45 - you clearly sounded like some narrow ...Anon 11:45 - you clearly sounded like some narrow minded, childish and silly little child. Agree????ScrewYounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-47437459229608277042010-12-12T23:45:06.784+08:002010-12-12T23:45:06.784+08:00Teaching is a loser's career for people that c...Teaching is a loser's career for people that can't make it as doctors, teachers or lagi worse engineers. How to expect such "losers" to be saintly is beyond me. The only "saintly" teachers are those bodohs that grew up "wanting to teach" and educate the next generation because those are the closet pedophiles who are secretly yearning to spend all their time with young kids. Which explains why so many women are drawn to the teaching job "not a profession" as they want us to think of it, because those women are (i) all cannot make it as doctors or lawyers and (ii) they are all closet pedophiles yearning for young boys. However, I believe pedophilia only extends to young children that hasn't hit puberty and should not be defined by the legal age of capacity to consent to sex as that is too high and un-realistic limit. Agree????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-87490322456097390472010-12-12T15:26:45.210+08:002010-12-12T15:26:45.210+08:00..because it doesnt take a genius to see her posts.....because it doesnt take a genius to see her posts slowing down and most of them are ads and other lame crap... as compared to pre GB where there were more "substance" and effort put into her posts. But thats understandable since she's busy spreading her legs for GB these days.Vewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-24943267350138878422010-12-12T12:14:00.539+08:002010-12-12T12:14:00.539+08:00Do you know what paedophile means? He is not a chi...Do you know what paedophile means? He is not a child molester, yes, but a paedophile is someone who is sexually attracted predominantly to children.. it's the definition of the word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-75636855179610798912010-12-12T10:54:22.729+08:002010-12-12T10:54:22.729+08:00huh how u know her blog been slow since she met GB...huh how u know her blog been slow since she met GB?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-60519644839267586622010-12-12T10:42:06.601+08:002010-12-12T10:42:06.601+08:00Ok guys, shes gonna deny this but I think her stan...Ok guys, shes gonna deny this but I think her stance on this is a publicty stunt. Her blog has been slow since she met GB so I think she really needs the hits. Lets give her that?Vewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-30655676321303840732010-12-12T07:07:20.120+08:002010-12-12T07:07:20.120+08:00I have met many teachers (both who taught me and f...I have met many teachers (both who taught me and friends who go on to become teachers) who I won't call examples of wholesome goodness. <br /><br />People have to remember they are just regular humans who chose to teach for various reasons, some good, some questionable. The ratio of weirdos versus our standards of norm in the teachers population are probably more or less like the ratio of the society as a whole. <br /><br />Honestly, there isn't any way to weed out possible troublemakers from the genuine teacher wannabes. People need to see things for what they are and stop going on a witch-hunt persecution thing. The MOE is only responsible in training applicants and if someone is determine in keeping their perversion a secret, there is little chance it will surface... It was just luck that it was uncovered in this case.Mewhttp://twitter.com/aoimewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-88120729473940661512010-12-11T13:39:00.691+08:002010-12-11T13:39:00.691+08:00Just because you could not make it in a teaching c...Just because you could not make it in a teaching career does not warrant most teachers as not saint. There are teachers who still pursue the cause of education for our society and children. You pursue your goals outside of education, so be it. Whether you want to admit or not, no matter what you say, you cannot change the fact most students look up to teachers, just as a child looks up to parents; i guess we will see this truth when we have our own children. Your future children will definitely look up to the adults around them. I believe you, being gone through a certain amount of education, will know that. <br /><br />Nobody is officially referring jonathan wong as a paedophile; if any, it will be due to societal labelling by the public. I agree that paedophile cannot be caught until he/she is caught for that crime. However, it is still very premature for us to determine that jonathan wong is not a paedophile. There is a reason laws come to be enacted in the first place, in this case, laws prohibiting child pornography. Once again, you can choose not to believe "no matter what the statistics say", but you can never deny the knowledge and power of correlation which statistics present regarding certain individual behaviours, ie peeping, child porn, and paedophiliac outcomes. True enough, these might not be definitive in ruling a person as a pedophile; but these are definitely telltale signs which we choose to be cautious of. <br /><br />Education stems upon the premise of research and statistics; it is only through these knowledge that we can equip our students in schools. As many people above have said, do not take out your frustrations of not becoming a teacher in this line of argument here; it just makes matters worse in you trying to discredit many teachers who believe in the real cause of education. Surely you do not want others to discredit your so-called pursue in dating so as to find your true love? Just stick to your usual blogging about fashion and make-up.leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-58833826621216501052010-12-11T13:28:33.994+08:002010-12-11T13:28:33.994+08:00You certainly are not fit to be a Teacher. Even if...You certainly are not fit to be a Teacher. Even if you have all the knowledge in the world. You know that too right? <br /><br />"majority of teachers are NOT the goody two shoes you think they are" This is an extremely biased statement of yours and you are being very unfair to so many of the passionate, caring, morally upright and dedicated teachers out there who truly care for their students. I agree that there are teachers like you who are not really as good a person as they portrayed themselves to be but you shouldn't overgeneralize things and claim that MAJORITY of the teachers are not good people. Yes all teachers are not saint but it is because they are still humans afterall! Throughout my teenage years I have met many nice and dedicated teachers who care for us and openly let us into their lives; visit to their homes, play with their kids, telling us real life stories etc and as such we trusted them and created a bond that was a strong motivator for us to excel in our studies. They are not like what you said; "with skeletons in their own closets".<br /><br />Maybe you will never understand what I'm saying here because you were never like them. You don't even agree that changing boyfriends frequently is a bad thing! You could be those teachers who were in it just for the money and didn't bother to build rapport with the kids and just do the minimal. But please don't publicize your own prejudice without any reservations it is extremely unfair to the teachers who are fit to be a teacher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-34560701187004658492010-12-11T13:19:49.189+08:002010-12-11T13:19:49.189+08:00I think HJ is simply not informed enough to post s...I think HJ is simply not informed enough to post such a blog post and is better off sticking to her usual topics of fashion, white men, being skinny etc<br /><br />writing her teaching experience about not wearing her opaque tights and Jonathon wong case all in 1 breath just doesn't sit well with many readers. we all know that she is NOT condoning what Jonathon has done or paedophiles nor do we need her valuable "advice" of telling us to teach our kids, it's just that the way she wrote about such a topic seems to be trivalising it and no matter what we readers try to say, she will be very defensive so let's just leave it as that and let her move on to the topics that she is well informed on - fashion, being skinny & white men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-4165753734883951752010-12-11T12:20:41.166+08:002010-12-11T12:20:41.166+08:00I am not saying to parents out there that we shoul...I am not saying to parents out there that we should let all paedophiles run free.<br /><br />Of course if someone breaks the law, we will jail him or punish him.<br /><br />But I am saying that THAT alone will not protect your child.<br /><br />How do you intend to hunt down a paedophile when he hasn't committed the crime? <br /><br />Stigmatising somoene who has committed an offence while he himself was a child ( e.g being a peeping tom at age 14), how is that fair?<br /><br />JOnathan wong is not a paedophile (no matter what the statistics say)... he is only a paedophile if he is caught for THAT crime. ANd yes he should be punished for his crime of watching child porn. ANd of course because of tht he will no longer have a career in MOE.<br /><br />I am saying that he could have JUST AS EASILY not have gotten caught... and ended teaching in your kid's classroom... and you wouldn't be able to tell that he is a paedophile ( or any other teacher for tht matter)... and yes, he would PROBABLY make a good teacher in that classroom even.<br /><br />ANd there are many people out there will ill intentions running free around your children, btw.<br /><br />obviously you cannot put people away simply because they look like a creep, or peeked under a girl's skirt when he was a child, or has sick thoughts in their heads..<br /><br />SO THEN WHAT? Too bad so sad.. let your kid get raped silly? hmmm... yes... I guess I don't need to tell you.<br /><br />P/s- anon12.14 , sorry to hear abt your childhood experience. But even having the iron hand and going on a rampage to crush all paedophiles would not have saved you from your awful experience with you uncle. You do realise that right? :(Holly Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05204601039672791434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-49963266066290665872010-12-11T12:02:00.694+08:002010-12-11T12:02:00.694+08:00Kids are very innocent and it's very easy for ...Kids are very innocent and it's very easy for adults to trick them. I was a victim as a kid, but I didn't tell anyone, evn though my mother had told me sternly a few times to tell her if anyone touched me in that way.<br /><br />1) The whole incident felt very shameful and I was ashamed to tell anyone.<br /><br />2) The touches felt good to me and I was confused.<br /><br />3) The person was a family member.<br /><br />The nature of such incidents is that the kid will very likely keep it secret and fear consequences if they tell. I had sleepless nights over it and headaches every weekend when I knew I would be facing the person.<br /><br />It's not as easy as you think to "equip" your child against such people. Paedophiles are very cunning and manipulative and often will become the child's "friend" first. What us parents are saying is, definitely TRY to catch ALL the paedophiles out there!!! It doesn't equate to parents being overprotective. When you have your own child, you will finally understand. We will of course do what we can to educate our children... really, do we need you to tell us???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-16726601373750106332010-12-11T04:59:36.444+08:002010-12-11T04:59:36.444+08:00omg, whatever lah. pamper your little nimbees if y...omg, whatever lah. pamper your little nimbees if you have to people, this is exactly why kids nowadays run home to mommy if they get bullied instead of throwing a clean punch back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-2761319043750663922010-12-10T05:26:40.536+08:002010-12-10T05:26:40.536+08:00"For every Jonathan Wong we catch, there are ..."For every Jonathan Wong we catch, there are thousands more out there. So educate your children to be more aware/informed/street-smart instead of molly-coddling them."<br />Agree with what you say regarding this. And from your personal examples given, I understand and agree that teachers aren't saints, just like nobody is. It's just that many of people's faults aren't exposed. so we should bubble wrap out kids in an unrealistic world.<br /><br />BUT.........this point of yours is very WRONG imo,<br />"But what I am saying... is tht the solution to KEEP YOUR KIDS SAFE is NOT to go on hyper alert and try to weed out EVERY Jonathan Wong."<br />we should weed out EVERY Jonathan Wong whenever possible because he has committed a CRIMINAL offence. That is NOT normal things character or personality faults, but CRIMINAL. This is not about being wild or hot-tempered or selfish or promiscuous etc etc etc... I think that makes a big difference, CRIMINAL OFFENCE. if he's not caught, it's too bad. just like a murderer who's not caught is too bad, but that doesn't mean society should not try to expose these criminals if they know about it and try to weed them out. society can never weed criminals out, just like weeds can never be completed weeded, but we should always try to weed out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-40986432566056345562010-12-09T23:53:45.232+08:002010-12-09T23:53:45.232+08:00G -
if it was clear in the first place, there wou...G - <br />if it was clear in the first place, there wouldn't be room for 'misinterpretation'. I respect Holly's point of view and believe she certainly does not advocate child pornography. <br /><br />The bottom line is, I agree that paedophilia is not the topic of debate in this entry, but all I am saying is that the manner in which the entry is presented does not ring fence the issue sufficiently, hence causing a ruckus, as you can see for yourself. It's just a comment to Holly for her to choose whether or not she wishes to take the point on board. <br /><br />This is a good platform(albeit may be not the most appropriate, sorry Holly!) to discuss this issue. But let's discuss opinions backed by facts, not aggression. Also, please do not 'misinterpret' my arguments, because I think that you're missing my point entirely.<br /><br />Anon 7:16Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34883330.post-70877947751572872982010-12-09T22:19:36.052+08:002010-12-09T22:19:36.052+08:00Oh Holly,
you should just stick to what you do be...Oh Holly,<br /><br />you should just stick to what you do best which is to blog about make up, budget fashion, keeping skinny and dating white men. If you can't see how comparing the tough stance on paedophilia to dubious dress codes would outrage people, then I'm sorry but you deserve whatever backlash you're getting. You said "please don't just bubble wrap your kids and fire/execute/kill/deport every Jonathan Wong you come across... because that is not the solution." I don't see how you can't see how apathetic and insensitive you are coming across on the very real problem of child pornography! So you felt some infringement on your lifestyle while you were teaching... It does not mean that you're entitled to flippantly use Jon Wong as an example of parents/teachers overreating to everything. I've never had a<br />problem with what you've written Holly Jean but you should really listen to the comments here, and by that, I don't mean the readers Molly coddling you & defending your ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com