Friday, July 31, 2009

5 Ways to Spot a Tranny

Last week, at like 2 am in the morning. My friend Scott calls me. I was fast asleep, and the phone woke Mark up too. (He wasn't happy, Scott!)

Anyway, Scott wanted to know rather urgently - how to tell if a girl was a real girl (genetically) or a she-male. He was at a bar, and he met a girl. And he was attracted to her, but also had a feeling that she may be a Man. I asked him why and he said she was unusually tall for an Asian girl.

So I told him to do the arm test (see below)... and went back to sleep.

The next morning, I asked him how it went, and he just said it was "inconclusive". Inconclusive? yeah right.. I bet he did the arm test and realised it was a man!

Although Scott is a somewhat awkward red-headed chap... i don't really blame him for not being able to tell if it were a man or woman he was getting cozy with at the bar.

Sex change operations are freaking amazing now. And a lot of them look so much better than us real women!

Miriam Rivera (Big Brother Australia, now TV star). Gorgeous to most people (though I do find her face manly). But if a real woman actually stood beside her, you'd start to be suspicious because Miriam is much Larger. (Which is also why I suspect Mariah Carey is really a bloke)

But in Asia where people are smaller built and men (korean, japanese, chinese, etc) tend to be smaller built and have softer features (not so chunky)... it's even harder to tell a transgender or transvestite from a real woman.
For example, Harisu (pic above).

First, let's clarify some things:
Transvestite is a male who dresses as a female.
She-male is a man who has taken hormones and maybe even had his adam's apple "shaved" and had facial injection but still has his penis and balls.
Transsexual is a male who has gone through the complete operation to become a physical woman.
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Not that I have anything against transvestites, she-males or transsexuals. But if you're a straight man, I'm guessing you wouldn't want to ignorantly hook up with any of the three? (unless of course that is what you want, then by all means go ahead)


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Apart from the Adams apple, deep voice, balls and penis or facial hair... all of which sex change operations and hormone pills can fix.... how can u tell if it's a man or woman?

Holly Jean's 5 Ways to Spot A Tranny
1. The Physical
Shoulders: Women's shoulders-to-hips ratio is typically more in proportion to one another. Men have narrower hips.
Size: of hands and feet ( For Asian women- bigger than a US 9/UK7 is questionable)
Jaw line: About mid-point in a male jawbone is a sudden change of angle.
On a woman the jawbone is more or less a softer curve from under the ear to the chin.


However, some traits that we think of as gender-specific, aren't necessarily so. Some women have big shoulders, some women are tall, some men are short... so let's move on to number 2..



2. The Arm Test
Here's my arm on top and Mark's arm at the bottom of the pic. When you straighten your arm, men will notice that it won't go beyond the 180 degree point, it'll be just straight. But women will find that their arms bend a little extra backwards.

3. The Center of Gravity Test

Follow instructions in my video. If they fall forward, it’s a man. If they keep their balance, it’s a woman.



This is because women have a lower center of gravity. We’ve got short torsos, long legs and wide hips. Men, on the other hand, have long torsos with bigger chest cavity (bigger ribcage) so a lot of weight is in their chests. So when he tries to lean forward to touch the paper, he can’t do it because it brings his center of mass too far forward in front of his knees and he falls over.


4. The Evidence from the Past
Ask to see some childhood pics of her. This is one of the most discreet ways to find out, without looking like you SUSPECT SHE'S A MAN. But if she doesn't show you any... hmmm... (try the tests above!)


5. The Crotch

If you're a brave boy... and end up in bed together before you can ascertain whether she's a true female or not... then look at her crotch. A post surgery crotch/vagina is higher than a real woman's.

Do share if you have any other "tests" or any experience regarding this subject. Would be interesting to hear what you have to say.

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88 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:04 am

    i never knew about the arm test and balance test! thanks holly!

    but a bit hard to test your date without offending her!!!!


    Your charm hair stick is very pretty. but it's not on the lav website yet??

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  2. hi:)

    well, of course you got to be sneaky... and turn it into a game! Like say "I bet $10 you can't touch this piece of paper with your nose"

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    1. Anonymous11:39 pm

      You are beyond idiotic Holly Jean.

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  3. kylle3:17 pm

    hello!
    the arm test doesnt work for me!

    pardon the fats! thats not the main point. LOL.
    http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7603/003600x450.jpg
    http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8693/011600x450.jpg

    this is so worrying. haha.

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  4. kylle3:18 pm

    forgot to include that i'm a girl.

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  5. Hi Kylle... if you're a girl.. then the arm test did work.

    your arm in the pic is like bent more than 180degrees!

    what fats? so skinny

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  6. haha...

    well the first pic, can't tell becos u must twist the elbow up when you straighten your arm. so from the camera's view point, u can see whether it's more or exactly than 180degrees. :)

    second pic... i dunnoe what. hahahaaa :D

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  7. kylle4:13 pm

    HAHAHAA! thats funny.
    i tried so hard to keep my arm straight while doing the right way. (2nd pic) it bent more than 180!

    thanks anyway.

    really like your blog. i come here almost every day!

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  8. Anonymous9:31 pm

    There's another test that will provide a definitive answer: The finger test! You need to look at the index and ring finger, doesn't matter which hand. Men have longer ring fingers (as compared to index fingers), while women have longer index fingers. This is due to the presence of higher levels of testoterone in men! At least my ring fingers are longer than my indexes!

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    1. Anonymous10:33 am

      You're an idiot.. I'm transgender and my ring finger isn't longer than my index finger.. The ONLY sure way to know is to ask a woman if she's trans or not.. All of the shit posted in this blog made me LOL

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    2. Anonymous9:57 pm

      I agree with anonymous above. I'm a red-blooded male and my ring finger and index finger are exactly the same length. Please stop spouting psuedoscience nonsense.

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  9. Anonymous10:11 pm

    So anon 9.31 must be a guy then :)

    I am a guy too but the 2 fingers are almost equal length.

    I was looking at the pic of your arms to find see mark fingers and yours, and I realise his hands are huge! so many times bigger than yours. ( I know what tht means!) lol


    my arm is straight. so I agree with that.

    Haven't tried the balance test yet!

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  10. the balancing test was wao! never thought of that! love ur entries!

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  11. Anonymous9:55 pm

    the balancing test didn't work for me. am a true blue girl!!

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  12. Anonymous11:04 pm

    Hi Holly, hmm.. i think the Arm Test may not be that accurate. im a gal burt yet able to stretch out 180degrees.. hmmmm -Michelle

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  13. anon 9.55 - u mean u fell over???? :( hmmm... not sure why it didn't work...

    anon 11.04 - yes, every one can stretch it out to 180 degrees!!
    A girl can stretch it out to More than 180 degrees... almost like the bending extends further. but a guy can only go up to 180 degrees.

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  14. Anonymous1:32 pm

    love ur hair girl. so long and smooth.

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  15. Anonymous6:09 pm

    the best test to see if the person you are with is a woman is to ask her to pay for dinner !!!! if she /he says no , then its definitely a woman !

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    1. Anonymous1:28 am

      LOL!

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    2. aaron1:27 pm

      Put your hand in their pants...feel for a cock longer than yours lol and run!

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  16. Anonymous8:27 pm

    erm i'm a girl and mine is 180 degrees. i don't know how you manage to twist your arm that way so it's bent awkwardly like that.

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  17. I am a guy. Sorry to tell you, I tried the balance test & I can do it easily enough, without falling over.

    Do you have any fail-proof ways to know? I know I am not a girl, & this is frustrating to have you list things that turn out wrong!

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  18. Hi ya.. the balance test is based on science (as in the mechanics and proportions of the body). But of course, as with most things in life, it's not 100% foolproof.

    And I did mention that some women have masculine bodies and vice versa.

    Perhaps you have long legs? Or skinny chest and not muscular shoulders hence less weight there.

    Even the arm test... currently I have a Man's "arm" instead of my usual woman's one. Been really pushing it at the gym, and my right arm (especially)can't straighten to more the 180 at the moment. (!) Hopefully tht will go back to normal after a few days and the muscles heal

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  19. Anonymous3:00 pm

    what if a girl has huge breast???...would she fall???

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  20. Unfortunately none of these tests are accurate. I'm male. My arms bend past 180 degrees I am tall and skinny with very long legs and can pass the balance test easily. I have small feet for a guy. Also, non natal vaginas are different for every single person and doctor who performs the surgery. You need to do more research because none of these tests prove a thing. Also I know plenty of girls that can't bend their arms past 180 degrees. Thats all flexibility. I'm a distance runner so I'm incredibly flexible, more so than most women in fact.

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  21. I'm a transexual but you'd never be able to tell the diffrence arm test maybe finger test no. I've been one for about six months but dressed like one since I was fifteen I got a 36 c rack and I'm 5'8" and proud to be a trans sexual. Even though I've lost alot of friends.

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  22. Hahahahaha!!! You are so funny Holly, I don't believe that at all. Because I am a transgender and even if before that I haven't have my reassignment I already look like a girl. with my bone structures compares to a REAL WOMEN, I have very From detail. from eyebrows bones, cheek bones, lips I dont even have adams apple. and voice shocks everyone because its 500% like a women's voice. I have 36-22-36 size, I am 5"8, Asian. But in reality, you cant really compare because there's millions of girls that look like a man, that has a man structures, from bone to muscles, same as men, some men have femenine structures. Most asians are. I believe you are so insecure and jealous because transgenders specially asians are infinitely more women look like and beautifull amazing as you are. Insecure cunt!.. I truly believe that you need to have surgery because for me you are the one that looks like a man.

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    1. Anonymous1:08 pm

      The gene test is 100% undeniably accurate, if it has XY it ain't a girl.

      I hope you inform men you wish to date about your operation, starting a future on a lie would be wrong.

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    2. Anonymous10:38 am

      Oh ok.. And what about those who have XXY chromosomes.. Some women born with vaginas have AIS and have XY chromosomes are they not women? You people are idiots. Educate yourselves

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    3. This entire blog post is so transphobic i cant even describe how disgusting it was to read it. Her stupid terms arent even right!
      As for you anonymous person, there are women who are born with XY genes. Genes dont really affect social life much.

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    4. KaylaAnneKay6:39 pm

      Here is the problem with this whole blog. I am a transwoman A.) I was born male I did the arm test went plenty past the 180. B.) I have long legs and a small ribcage, so small I have to wear a 32c bra and I pass the balance test. C ) between 10 and 20 percent of women who were born women have ring fingers longer than their index fingers. D.) XY and XX chromisome are no guarantee that an individual is going to be male or female. You have to think of the as a timer and sometimes things go wrong with a timer and dont go off when they should or do go off when you dont expect them to the Y is just an increased chance you will have the chemical dispersed during the right time in gestation to make you male. Its like always getting a lottery ticket and and you will have a certain chance of winning and if you buy two that just doubled your chsnces of winning but it doesnt mean you are going to win. Its people who make claims about scientific proof to tell if someone was born male or female. To have errefutable proof the test must never be able to pass by one gender and always be passed by another. Which in this current day and age there is no such test. My thought on these types of blogs is that people are promoting sexism. So what if a person you are attracted to was born a different gender. Thats not who they are now. If they have gone threw the whole surgery they gave up everything physical that they were born with to identify then as that gender for a reason. They dont want to be connected to being that gender. When you get diwn to it blogs like this support the ideal that trans individuals are just gay or lesbian and want to fool others into having sex with them. That is not the case so leave your homophobia at home. We are not sadistically ploting to trivk you into having sex with us, we want a meaningful relationship just as much as anyone else. I am a transwoman but I am not into men but this still irritates me. Last thing I want to say is what is with this "use real women" the only difference is that you are a cisgendered woman and using that as if you were entitled to it when you need to earn it. Being a real woman is about how you act on a daily basis, how you interact with people, and how you call out another woman for being a bitch. Its not an intitlement program. Here in a few years you wont even be able to use the "but at least I can give birth" statment that pisses so many of us off. Proof of that being the first successful birth from a transplanted uterus happening a couple months ago.

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    5. Anonymous1:41 am

      Yukimika, are you talking about the young Lady in the video because she looks nothing like a Man, she looks like a very down to earth fresh-faced Woman.

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    6. Anonymous11:31 am

      If there is a Y chromosome it is a...
      If there are ZERO Y chromosomes it is a...

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    7. Anonymous11:42 am

      I'll clarify my last post: Many people think male or female can be determined absolutely in every case by one question: Are there any Y chromosomes?

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    8. Not sexist at all. Trans should be straight forward right from the start and that way they may connect with someone interested in them. Don't play that it don't matter crap it's only about love etc because what if they want a real woman that can give birth ??? Be honest ladies that's thee only way .

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  23. Anonymous10:58 am

    Appreciate it completely.

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  24. Anonymous3:53 pm

    Ouch. That's quite rude there. I pass all of your little tests, but still, that's quite unnecessary. Why the insistence on "real woman vs. hehe actually a man?" That's just kinda disrespectful towards people who struggle a lot in their lives to find happiness. We as a society should not seek to punish those who are able to obtain inner happiness despite immense pressure. We should emulate them.

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    1. Anonymous1:10 pm

      Most men don't feel comfy in trying to start a life with a sterile male to female human organism.
      It's a bit to close to homosexuality, unless the guy is bi, then it's ok.

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    2. Anonymous12:34 am

      It's nowhere near homosexuality- gay men are attracted to MEN, and the traits which are usually associated with men: their facial & body hair, muscle definition, manner of speaking, etc. Not to mention aspects of their personality which are masculine. If a heterosexual man finds a woman's voice, mannerisms, and physical features attractive, things that defined her during her youth or years before they met don't make him gay. Plenty of cisgender women are raised by their father or have a lot of brothers, or could have had a hormone imbalance at some point, or simply have some masculine traits- would it be "close to homosexuality" for a man to be attracted to a woman who enjoys lifting weights, for example? Or what about an aspect of her life which occurred before they ever met- does she need to wear a sign around her neck that says "my mother died giving birth to me and I was raised by my father"? If cis women have a right to privacy about their personal history, then so do trans women. It's horribly cruel to try and sentence them to a life of loneliness, by making men nervous and uncomfortable that their sexual identity or masculinity will be called into question if they fall for one of these beautiful women. And before you say "trans women should date gay men," recall the very first thing I wrote: gay men are attracted to male physical features and personality traits. If homosexual men will not date trans women, then clearly there is nothing homosexual about it.

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  25. Anonymous6:09 pm

    The arm test is actually different from what you described.

    In women, if you hold your arm straight in front of you, with your palms facing the other palm, then you will see the angle in the elbow of women.

    However, the same things will also be seen in a trangender woman and in gay men. The reason is because these gender differences between men and women happens in the womb. And the womb environment for transgender women, gay men and genetic women are all similar. So they all develop similar features.

    Totally agree with yukimika. These people suffer all their lives within their own bodies. It is sad. And it is totally wrong for the rest of us to make fun of them by talking about these kinds of "spot the tranny" exercises.

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  26. Vince1:39 am

    I'm not trying to offend the trannys, but struggle all you want, you cannot change your sex, no matter how much the technology advance, you're still the same sex, you have to learn to accept that, not run away from it, it's pathetic and a disgrace humanity, to run away from your own gender. And it's totally wrong for normal people (yes, the term "normal" fits here perfectly) to avoid the trannys? What if a man does not want to date with a man? Just because it's offensive to the tranny, the normal man should accept the tranny and keep on dating? You are not bright if you believe so. Not the man should learn to accept the tranny, the tranny should accept his/her (although I assume, most of them are males trying to look like females) own gender! Modern society has gone too far with all the "freedom". What's next, the freedom to kill a person, because the person makes you unhappy? After all, you SHOULD do what makes you happy. If you can't see the relations between trannys and this "killing theory", you are not wise nor smart. To a regular man, dating with a tranny male (again, learn to accept that you are a male) might be just like being raped. It does hurt others.

    And about yukimika's comment, to end the struggling, you should not try to hide from your gender, that is a fool's and a coward's way, you should learn accept what you are. Because you cannot change it, and it's not a prison, not some sort of punishment, it's you, what you were born, what you are and what you will die. I said this many times and I'll say it many more.

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    1. So much hate. You are talking like ''trannies'' are chasing you 7/24. Nobody is hiding from their gender. They are accepting their gender and what they are! That's what you call being transgender. It's medical condition. You transition because you accept what you are! Not because of denial. Denial would make you stay as something you do not feel like.

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    2. Anonymous6:20 pm

      So its a medical condition so I'm a drug addict that's a mental condition so does that make it okay and acceptable that i m a drug addict ? Hell no. Society sends you to n.a meetings. Maybe there should be meetings for you men out there. I'm not sexist nor racist nor an I against human wanting to be human . but I am against how I have to argue with certain people about how "no damn it that's a fucking man!! " a heated argument that's got me looking into all of this when I noticed the first "female" looking like a dude in a porno that was being played. Then I saw him again in a different porn, and that's when I went on to prove my point you can tell a woman from a man . don't get me wrong I get along with crossdressers and feminine men probably more that other but at the same time they start to piss me off cause they talk a lot of more shit on the side and out of their necks than an instigator would. It is real fucked up that someone cant lget it up because they are brainwashed from a porn making them think its not possible for a man to look better than a woman. Where there is a will there is a way of course the trannys look better . but gross have at it.funny thing is that everyone has fantisies , I do , shit sometimes I wonder what it would be like to have a dick but does that mean I take to a whole other level and grow a damn dick? You're not happy with how God created you ? Horimonally unbalanced in the uterus or whatnot and etc , if you are supposed to be umballanced then be that way and deal with it. Like I said ... Im A drug addict ... It's mind over matter . not matter over mind that's where the evil sets in you and you are no longer with soul you are satins bitch here and worse after . satin hates us and that's exactly what he wants is for u to destroy your self that was perfect . the way you were . mental condition or not . thanks for the buttman magazine . can anyone tell me am I right that is an ALL SHEMALE AND MALE MAGAZINE ? just a point I'm trying to prove to someone

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  27. Anonymous2:24 pm

    I'm not sure why Yukimuki up there is getting all defensive but hey, even if HJ weighed 110kg and walked like a duck, she'd still be a woman, and you'd still be a tranny. Nothing for HJ to feel insecure or jealous about.

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  28. Anonymous8:57 am

    I would like to propose another test. As an xxy male (34a-28-37) I can do this, while other men cannot. 1) sit on the floor yoga-style 2) with arms folded in front and gripping the shirt to disable reaching-out for leverage 3) raise yourself to a standing position (as in the motion of a scissors jack). Only women or men who might as well be women can do this. A nurse taught me this.- Tupungato.

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  29. Anonymous12:47 pm

    The comparison of the second digit (finger closest to thumb) and the fourth digit is called the '2d/4d comparison.' In almost all women the 2d is shorter than the 4d. In men it varies with in-utero androgen exposure. The less exposure to (or absorption of) androgens results in a proportionately longer 2d. This can be used as a parlor game to guess the age at birth of a males mother. The fingers tend to equal if the mother was 32+/- and if the mother was more like 35, the 2d will be longer. Such a male is more likely to be feminised in a variety of ways (having some cross-over features). It also suggests the probability of a wide range of special skills or orientations even including the Asperger spectrum. Such men tend to look much younger than their age with softer features. While a female with a longer 2d might possibly be an xy androgen insensitive female. Lady Gaga, Debbie Harry and Yelena Isenbaeva appear to have this characteristic long 2d. The paradox is that some of the most 'handsome' women have some male features while some of the most macho males have some female features. Sean Connery has a convex forehead and high hairline (female) while Sean Bean (Boromir in LoTR) has eyebrows above the brow ridge (female). Jaromir Jagr (NHL) has hips wider than most females and a deadly hip-check because of it. We're all mammals ... and that's the point. Being an XXY, I tend to notice these things. - Tupungato.

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  30. Anonymous5:21 pm

    DNA test is the only fool-proof test.

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  31. you're kind of a transphobic piece of shit...

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  32. seriously fucking stop with the "real" woman/women bullshit. you are so fucking ignorant. a real woman has manners, compassion, and a fucking brain. you are a piece of shit.

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  33. HI Veronica, If you are a woman (or consider yourself a woman), perhaps it would be wise to follow your own advice first before you dish it out to others.

    Sincerely,
    the one u called a fucking ignorant piece of shit. Hahaaaaaaaa

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    1. Anonymous2:59 pm

      Hi Holly Jean.
      Do you realize that you look like a fucking man yourself? Seriously? The only thing that makes me think you arr not a tranny is that you arr fucking ugly and usually trannies clean up much more nicely than you. So, let me reiterate it. You look like a fucking ugly man and you have a very manly face. Do you say you are a woman? Maybe you weeeere a Woman, but now not anymore. You are a piece of dead meat. All these repulsive hypocritea who talk about procreation and having children. Do you try to have children every time
      You have sex? And by the time
      A woman is 40 and
      Can't have children anymore, she is a goner. She is no longer a woman. And the hands thing is so fucking stupid.
      If it was really the hands what gives tranny aways, they'll all
      Move to Siberia and wear gloves. Holly Jean, I hope you die with vaginal cancer and you shot from your mouth, puke blood

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    2. Anonymous1:34 pm

      So much hate from behind a computer towards a beautiful REAL woman... Kill yourself, faggot

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  34. Anonymous11:54 pm

    Hello Holly.

    Did you know that the word 'tranny' is as insulting to transsexual people (both sexes) as the N word is to African American people?

    Knowing this, if you still think it's ok to use the word, it would tell me everything I want to know about the type of person you might be.

    Sophie Lambert

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    1. Anonymous5:51 am

      No it is not

      You or other transgendered people may find it insulting but it is nothing close to the N word for African American people

      Black people are born with the genetics and live with what they are, with no choice, and dont go through race change surgery or trans-racing or whatever

      A transgendered person makes the choice to bring that attention to themselves, just because they can not face the reality of the situation of their genetics, and then go to great lengths for a cosmetic change of who they believe to be, when their genes and DNA say the exact opposite

      It is not even comparable

      Lastly, why are transgendered people so hateful towards cisgender people?

      We are not forcing you to change your lifestyle

      Straight Cisgender Males have to find out this information, otherwise they could have severe psychological disorders, if a transgender person wants to go out with them

      It is a sexual preference like a trans person. Their sexual preference is a straight cisgender woman.

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    2. Anonymous5:56 am

      Damn it, I do not know the terms but basically a straight dna and genetic male may only want to go out with a straight up DNA and genetic woman, with no need for all that unnecessary cosmetic changes

      I am not even sure cisgender is the right word

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    3. What kind of phobic person areyou? Do you even know intersex conditions? Do you live your life according to your genes? ''oh, I'm a XY male so I have right to use man's bathroom.'' Do you go say things like that in your daily life? There are several Straight Cisgender Males that love a Transgender Woman because of who they are! Not because of her Dna!

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    4. KaylaAnneKay7:09 pm

      Oh my flipping gosh, are you serious. Are you the same type of person who say they let the box fall on their foot when they weren't looking. We dont choose to be who we are. We choose to let the person we are out. It thr same as saying a gay guy chooses to be gay. Do you know how hard it is for us to be who we are outside as we are in. We face daily dicrimination like we are psychotic murderers or something and all we are doing is being ourself without causing harm to anyone else. And yes tranny is to us what the n word is to black individuals the n word was originally in referrence to them as being a dirty people. Tranny is the exact same thing to us and dont say it isnt unless you've lived a day in the life of a transgendered individual. And you cant say its not in the dna because dna has not been fully researched. They are discovering new things about dna everyday. And what do they say about most of the things they have found out about dna? That dna shows we are predispositioned to this or that. Which basically means we are set on a path by our dna but things could change. And the change may not even be mental it could be chemical or a coding in the dna elsewhere saying never mind about that previous directive. You want to know something funny about this dna talk. By dna I was predestined to be female but was born male with XX chomisomes. So dont tell me I am going against my dna. And you talking about a straight male could get psycologial disorders from being with a trans woman is bull. The only psycological disorder he has was from before he met her and its call homophobia which is being misplaced. I have no problem with cisgendered woman or men. What I have a problem with is ignorance. And thats coming from anyone. And again saying you are trying to make us change but in the same comment are being doragative for being who we. Obviously we would get upset with you, you are being completely ignorant and being a bigot in what you are saying

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  35. Anonymous6:22 am

    As anyone can see from your postings, the hate is all in one direction. Why do you even care?

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  36. Alexandra12:20 am

    This is just unnecessarily cruel. What possessed you to even write this?

    Enjoy feeling comfortable in your own sexed body and gendered experiences. It must be nice to look in the mirror and see yourself, instead of something ravaged by testosterone. It must also be wonderful to have no one ever question that you're female. I'll never know. Hey, but I guess you earned it through all that effort it took to be born. Just rub it in our faces.

    And this part goes for both you and your commenters. Stay the hell away from any trans women you might meet. We have enough shit to endure without you flinging your half-formed mental turds at us.

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    1. Well sorry you are a pig male so disgusted by himself that you can't handle your own God given body and have to be jelly sauce of real women. I hope ALL trannys stay the fuck away from me and out of me and my little girls public bathrooms you freaks and pervs. Acting like you belong grouped with little girls innocent of your perversions is insane.

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    2. Anonymous1:20 am

      So, you're the type of person who wants trans women to have to use the men's bathroom, even if it could result in that woman being raped and murdered, because you think that will keep trans people away from you? Have you stopped to ask yourself where trans men will use the bathroom? What will you tell your daughter when she sees a man like me walk in? Testosterone has given me facial and body hair, made me much stronger and more muscular, changed the shape of my face, and thickened my vocal cords so my voice is much deeper. The last thing I want to do is make anyone uncomfortable, and if I ever witnessed someone trying to hurt a child, I would beat the living daylights out of them, but you would have no way of knowing that. You would think your worst fears had come true, because there's a man in the woman's bathroom. It would be much more obvious and alarming than if a trans woman were in the bathroom- you probably have encountered trans women (anywhere in the world, not just restrooms) without even realizing that there was anything different about them. Your ignorant, impulsive wish to force trans women into men's bathrooms and vice verses would draw much more attention to transgender people, despite your claim that you don't want to have to pay attention to us, and our sincere wish to just be treated like anyone else.

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  37. Anonymous7:55 am

    Hi, I think as women we are naturally compassionate. It is sad that people actually have time to create such a blog. In theory all these test are just speculation and inconclusive so there is no merit to it. I am female and am proud to empower women & children to be the best they can be ! It hurts to see people use these methods to slander other sexualities. I know nothing about trans people but I believe you have no right to pass judgement on inconclusive statements. Very Sad !

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  38. Anonymous7:49 am

    I'm sorry but this is complete poppycock. And the finger test does NOT work. I know genetic women who have short index fingers and long ring fingers. So explain that please. And I agree with everyone else: you are a transphobic moron who clearly doesn't understand what being a transsexual is. It is not related to sexual orientation at all. You can get lesbian MTF transsexuals, so for all of you who instantly assume MTFs are just an extreme form of gay man, HOW do you explain MTF lesbians?!?!?! Well? I'm waiting.... Your gender identity is who you believe yourself to BE in your SOUL. It is nothing to do with who you fancy. So you can all FUCK OFF and stop bullying innocent trans women, who, incidentally, are nothing like the media portray us. We are real people, not freaks. It must be so nice to be born into the right body, thanks for rubbing that in our faces and laughing at us to make you feel happier with yourselves. You are complete cunts, as someone else here has said.

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    1. Anonymous1:21 pm

      1. Stop cussing

      2. This blog is to help non-bisexual men differenciate between natural born women and post op transexual women(who like men), so that they needn't request a blood test from every girl they meet. Most men don't wish to sleep with/marry or try to have babies with a transexual.
      It's very mentally scarring for men to find out afterwards, & not every transexual can be expected to be honest anout their operation especially if they are rejected alot by straight men, unless they prefer bisexuals.

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    2. THEY DONT NEED HELP. NO TRANSGENDER WOMAN WHO HAS SELF-RESPECT WOULD TELL A LIE ABOUT HER PAST TO SOMEONE THEY CARE ABOUT AND WANT TO SHARE A FUTURE WITH.

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  39. Anonymous3:25 pm

    You can know if someone is tranny or not by the RIBS. Men do not have an equal amount of ribs in both sides...

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    1. Anonymous3:53 pm

      Men have an equal number each side, but usually one less pair overall. Men have 12 pairs, women 13. The problem here is that intersex males often have 13 while males with higher Neanderthal content may also have 13. In any event, many of these proposed tests would require an unusual cooperation from the subject. A doctor with an x-ray told me I have 13 pairs, but I can barely figure out how to count my own, much less anyone else. - Tupungato.

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  40. Well, I would say that the first pic, can not tell because you must twist the elbow up when you straighten your arm. So from the camera's point of view, you can see whether it's more or exactly than 180 degrees.

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  41. Anonymous5:25 pm

    This is not important. What we want is a test to know whether the other person is able to speak Russian. We cannot ask him/her/it because he/she/it can lie

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  42. Anonymous9:23 am

    A reply to "Anonymous 7:49"; You are correct in your assertion that it is an irrelevant marker for gender, but at the same time may be missing the real significance. Your assertion that most of the women you know have 'short index fingers and longer ring fingers' (in order: 2d and 4d) is a premise shared in the 2d/4d hypothesis. A 2d of less length than the 4d, sometimes approaching equal length is common to both male and female and is therefore no indicator of gender. It does become a marker when the length of the 2d (index) finger is longer than the 4d (ring) finger. In a male this is indicative of in-utero androgen insufficiency or partial androgen insufficiency or insensitivity pre-and-post natal. As I posted a year ago, this can be used as a parlor trick to guess the age of his mother when he was born. A cautionary note is that each preceding male pregnancy raises the mother's maternal age (this is a really hard trick to pull off!). For a female, the length of the two fingers is completely irrelevant up to the point that the index finger is actually significantly longer. A longer index finger (2d) is far more rare than in a male. It can suggest the rare possibility that the female may actually be an xy (genetic male) with either Complete Androgen Insensitivity (CAIS), or 5 Alpha Reductase Deficiency Syndrome (5ARD). Both categories are universally accepted as women and are conspicuous at the higher levels of modeling, entertainment and sports. The elbow test is good but unreliable in a statistical sense as many gymnast or intersex males can also do this. The presence of an 'Adam's Apple' is often proposed as an absolute, but also fails in certainty as some few women (maybe Suzanne Vega) do have this feature. The bottom line is that gender is not black and white. It is a spectrum as in a rainbow, with many men having one or two female features (I have 13 rib pairs), and many women having one or two male features. Some like myself require surgery (3 for me) before a doctor will say "Congratulations, it's a boy!" These anomalies can be powerful assets in how a person presents themselves. If a cross-dresser were to force us to systematically evaluate the 21 or so visible features that separate most males from most females (dimorphism), then that person should be celebrated as a master of illusion and the performance as Oscar quality. This is the standard that each is held to each time they step out into the public. The consequences of failure can be death. Transvestites are six times more likely to be murdered than the average person. At age 8 I became fascinated with the differences between male and female and between cro-mag and Neanderthal. I have never stopped. 24 years later I was told I was Intersex and 18 years later I learned what that meant. - Tupungato.

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      I must have typed incorrectly as I was 31, Not 81, when these things became obvious to me

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  43. Anonymous9:26 am

    I'm a guy and the arm test doesn't work for me. I can bend my arm more that 180 degrees. It might be that I'm double jointed though.

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  44. Anonymous8:13 am

    Is this thread still active?

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      I think it is. - Tupungato.

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    2. Anonymous3:46 pm

      It can be, if you want it to be. - Tupungato

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  45. Anonymous11:53 pm

    Man you trannies are fucking sick you will never be a woman you are not born xx nor do you have eggs nor do you menustrate or have menopause nor will you ever have you own kids, you will never lactate and produce milk, you are just fucked up guys with mental issues

    If you wanna be nasty freaks go ahead but normal straight men want NOTHING to do with you.

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    1. Anonymous6:45 pm

      There are quite a few XX women who are not able to do any of the things you have listed, yet they are still women. At the same time there are some intersex men who experience some of the things you have listed. Do you include them as women? - Tupungato.

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  46. Anonymous2:08 am

    The best way to know is to ask Women you know, Women are more perceptive and pick up on the distinct differences. For example invite your date to a bar or a concert some place where you will be standing up for a particular amount of time and ask the Women you know (Women similar in height will probably make things obvious even to you) to meet you there but do not tell them your suspicions, later ask them to honestly tell you what they thought of her (if they think shes trans they may tell you) and/or you can just tell them what you suspect and that may make them comfortable enough to either confirm your suspicions or tell you that you are wrong.

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      There is a theory behind this idea, but it does not work in reality. In the few times I stepped out as female, I could tell that some women "spotted me" , but most did not. - Tupungato.

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  47. Anonymous4:41 am

    Nice article Holly. All these trannies and their lovers need to leave this comment section. Go spout your drivel elsewhere this article was made for men to use. The best description I can think of is filthy degenerates.

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  48. Anonymous11:46 am

    Hi everyone!

    I just stumbled upon your blog and I have to say that I'm honestly shocked at this post, it truly is shocking to see such backwards thinking, especially in such a contemporary society. I'm genuinely so shocked at the attitudes shown by yourself and in the comments below, and I cannot believe that this view is promoted by others. I for one am a cis woman, so no, I don't have the trans experience, and I only clicked on this link because I wished that it was a satirical post, but this article is stuffed with bigotry and just nasty on the whole.

    I understand your lack of knowledge towards an unfamiliar subject, but I don't at all agree with the lack of respect towards a group of people. Please do refrain from using terms such as "trannie" "real women" and "she-male" because it's honestly so disgusting to see a group of people targetted like this.

    Just my two cents, if anyone would like an argument I'm always open to that.

    Cheers

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  49. Anonymous10:13 pm

    Wow. Sure a lot of hate in a few people here. I appreciated the initial post as it does indeed provide some indicators of something I may wish to discern.

    The choice to be tranny is particular to that individual and it is not our place to judge. The choice to date tranny should be equally respected. The problem arises when you ask someone who was female from birth if she's a woman from birth. It's not exactly light dating discussion now is it?

    There is a place for awareness and understanding so that unsuccessful match ups can be avoided. It doesn't serve anyone to have a pairing that later involves rejection on such a personal level. It is better to know, and then to date those with a biological history you can accept.

    Thank you to the original author, and to those who can understand and appreciate the information she has shared.

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  50. Anonymous9:47 am

    This article is just transphobic garbage. Who gives a fuck?! You all are starting to piss me off. Also, this article is off. There are such things as female to male transexuals.

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  51. i am SO grateful for this. i just can't stand all the PC BS surrounding disclosure and access to needed information. you don't have to be a bigot or tans-phobic to simply not want to date a trans-woman. sexual preference or lack thereof for any kind of consenting, non-relative adult is not a crime. i just want to be able to discretely have the tools to make my own choices and then go from there. NO BIG DEAL. once again, thank you for this. btw, is there also something about a knob in the wrist bone?

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    1. Hmmm not sure what the significance is ... but my wrist bone has a knob

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  52. Anonymous1:57 am

    I think there should be a respectful way to address this. I have gone out on a few dates with a very beautiful, delightful, educated, skinny, fit Asian woman. 20 years younger than me. Gorgeous legs. Unusually firm breast implants. Voice a little bit deep, but accented and within normal parameters. But does not want to receive oral sex, only sex with condoms. Has pubic hair, lights dim when we have sex. Clitoris a bit large, but within normal parameters. Have never known women to avoid receiving oral sex with a happy loving partner, which is something I enjoy, because it makes my partner happy. So I am beginning to wonder. But if I flat out ask her, what if I am wrong? Awkward! Why does it matter? Well, it is part of her history. I think it is something that should be disclosed. Do not know if I will keep on seeing her or not. But I would like to be more sure before I ask.

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  53. Anonymous1:30 am

    Some of you miss the point we know transgendered people arnt out to trick us but there is a riseing number of them resently who refuse to say that they ever were men and transitioned. Some of these men just want respect they want to be trusted with the information that you once were a man. If you dont tell them before you enter a deeper relationship alot of them would be offended and feel you dont trust them. Plus yes there are some men who would prefer that the person they are with to be biologicly female from birth just like there parents were I dont see the problem with this they want to make the choice in their lives and they dont want you to make it
    for them. To get some of you to understand, you being transexual see this really atteractive man come over to you in a bar he introduces himself flirts with you you exchange numbers everything progresses a few weeks, on the day your first sexual experiance with this guy you tell him your transgendered he being your perfect man doesnt mind that you were once a man and he takes you to bed. A few more weeks pass and you begin to fall in love and see a future with him and he is in love with you aswell and he decides that after about a year or so of dateing you he wants to take a trip and introduce you to his parents. You head out and arrive at their home meet them and then you bring him over to meet your parents, the relation ship continues he proposes to you you say yes. You plan a family meet up so the parents can see each other just in a casual house party your parents comee in sit down and shortly after his parents come in they walk over and his father recognizes your father they grew up together. They're cousins and of course you look over at your husband to be and he puts his arm around you and says to his parents yes I know we are related ive known before we ever got involved that we were cousins. You not knowing this just had a bomb dropped on you and you have to options marry him because you love him and it doesnt matter anyway because you cant possibly inbreed with each other. Or refuse to marry your cousin crush his heart and be called a incestophobic.

    This is what some men fear with trans women that they wont tell them until they
    have reached the point where they can hide it and then they tell them. Its takeing away there right to choose to be with who they want to be with and the arguement always is it was there choice to take me to bed and its all about feelings and love yes and no if they knew you were transgendered could you honestly say they would have still loved you without any doubt in your mind. Because It was also
    your choice to take your cousin to bed because you loved them but most of you wouldnt have done it had you known who he actually was.

    Some of you might have and it doesnt matter to you its your choice but these men just ask that you give them the same respect and give them a choice aswell. Its not a transphobic issue its a common courtesy issue your makeing a choice for them how ever minor and you can say your not but you are.
    any more

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